Novus Spiritus: Delaware Breaks Away (Part 2)
Comments from the former minister of the Delaware church of Novus Spiritus.
Sylvia Browne and Rev. Nancy Williams in Browne's Office, 2002
In May of 2007, the article Novus Spiritus: Delaware Breaks Away was published on this site. The article contained a letter from Rev. Nancy Williams to the Novus Spiritus Board of Directors, in which she discussed her decision for closing the Delaware church of Novus Spiritus, and her resignation as a minister of Novus Spiritus.
At the end of that article, I invited Rev. Williams to contact me with any further comments she would like published, and stated that I would add them to that article. Rev. Williams has sent me such comments, and due to their length, I have decided to publish them in this, a separate article.
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Here is the letter Rev. Williams sent to me. I have added section headings, and have inserted occasional comments for clarification. All emphasis is from the original.
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November 19, 2007
There is an article on your website pertaining to the separation of the Society of Novus Spiritus Delaware church from the Headquarters in Campbell, CA. In the conclusion section of the article you state, "If Nancy Williams, Kathy Seacrist or members of the SNS board have any pertinent statements they wish added to this story, I would be glad to place them in this article." I am Nancy Williams, the former minister of the Delaware church and I’m requesting that my response be added to your article.
I have wrestled with this decision for quite some time and have decided that speaking up is the right thing to do. My hope is that in doing so, it will give others the courage to come forward and share their experiences or at the very least, to possibly open the eyes of those who are still blind to the truth. I am aware that there are many former as well as current ministers and Novus Spiritus members who have contacted you and wish to remain anonymous. I realize that these people fear repercussion, which is why they have chosen to remain anonymous. But truth will never be exposed under the guise of anonymity.
When I resigned as a minister with Novus Spiritus, I wrote a letter to Sylvia Browne and in that letter I stated I would not speak publicly about my experiences with her staff. However, Sylvia Browne has stated on many occasions, "you should only honor someone if they are honorable, and if not, all bets are off." From my personal experiences with Sylvia Browne and her staff, they are not honorable therefore I’ve decided "all bets are off." In light of all I’ve learned about Novus Spiritus and Sylvia Browne since my resignation, if sharing some of my personal experiences with Novus Spiritus and Sylvia Browne can prevent others from being taken in by this group, speaking publicly will have been justified.
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I became part of the Novus Spiritus organization because I believed then, and I still believe, in the Gnostic concepts that were promoted by this organization, and I wanted to be part of spreading these concepts. When I resigned, it was because I had finally accepted the fact that Sylvia Browne’s and Novus Spiritus’ agenda and mine were not the same. The examples you cited are accurate, but only a few of many reasons for our separation and my resignation.
I will address the issues in the order they are presented in the article on your website and will follow it with some personal experiences not mentioned in the article which led to my severing my relationship with Sylvia Browne and the Society of Novus Spiritus.
The sermon mentioned was based on the book, "Tomorrow’s God" written by Neal Donald Walsh, a spiritual author. Novus churches are required to audio tape each service and send a copy of the tape to the Novus Spiritus headquarters. When this particular tape was received at headquarters, I was reprimanded by Cardinal Darren English, a NS board member, for referencing material in the sermon that did not come from Sylvia Browne’s works. As I explained to Cardinal English, not only was I never advised that all sermons must be based only on Sylvia Browne’s works, I told him that in doing so we were dismissing all the spiritual authors upon which Gnosticism (our religion) is based. Gnosticism is not the sole domain of Novus Spiritus or Sylvia Browne.
Your article referenced the requirement to send 10% of all donations back to the Novus Spiritus headquarters. That is correct however this is not publicly known. Sylvia Browne has stated on numerous occasions (in her books and at lectures) she supports her churches and ministers. That is a lie. I have a document (minutes from a board meeting dated June 11, 2005), which states in part: "Novus Spiritus is unable to subsidize satellite churches. Churches must be self supporting." In addition to being self supporting, another document in my possession states "10% of all donations must be forwarded to the Novus Spiritus headquarters."
Your article mentions I was chastised for not wearing a robe during a service. As I discovered with that organization, Sylvia’s staff are quick to make assumptions without asking for or caring about the facts. They assumed I had conducted the service without wearing the robe after seeing a picture that was taken and sent to headquarters by a member visiting our church. This picture was taken outside after the service had concluded. I won’t even get into the issue of a spiritual organization claiming to be a religion without being religionistic yet mandating the wearing of different color robes to indicate a minister’s rank within the organization.
Your article states that none of the reasons outlined in my resignation chided Novus Spiritus, and in fact I stated I was grateful to Sylvia. That is correct. I stated that I was grateful to Sylvia for helping me through a difficult period. Being grateful to someone for something said or done and believing that her organization and Sylvia herself is controlling and manipulative are totally unrelated. To be perfectly clear, yes, I believe her organization is controlling and manipulative and I’m not an isolated case. Many wonderful people have severed their relationship with Novus Spiritus because of the actions of Sylvia Browne and her staff. Sylvia Browne and Novus Spiritus may have started with the best of intentions, I honestly don’t know if that’s true, but somewhere along the way control, egos, power and greed became their driving force.
All of the despicable experiences I’ve had with the board members were not part of my resignation letter. Those experiences were detailed in a personal letter sent to Sylvia Browne. If she wasn’t already aware (which I believe she was because it is my understanding that nothing is said or done without Sylvia’s knowledge and/or approval), I made her aware of how her staff treats people – myself and others. As I explained to Sylvia, within a spiritual organization, one would not expect board members to berate, humiliate, and swear at others.
In my resignation letter I stated, "As I will no longer be involved with the study group program, please cancel my automatic payment for study group fees effective May 1, 2007 and reassign the study group coordinators to a new Liaison." As of the date of this letter, I am still receiving emails and phone calls from my former coordinators, as they have not been notified that I am no longer their Liaison.
It also took an email from me to the office recently before they finally stopped taking the automatic payment out of my checking account and refunded the $80 they were not authorized to take. A voice mail left by Brooke, an office worker, stated she was not aware I had requested to be removed from the study group program. My resignation letter was mailed to every member of the Board of Directors and clearly stated to stop the study group fee payment. Her message also stated that my $80 would be refunded just as soon as I returned the 4 months of study group packets that had been sent to my home. (I’ve since learned that other ministers receive the study group packets each month and were advised that as ministers they were not required to submit the $20 monthly fee). Why some ministers are required to pay the fee and others aren’t, makes no sense to me but it’s just another example of "preferential treatment."
Before I had the opportunity to advise Brooke that I would not be returning any unsolicited material unless the office would be providing the necessary postage, I received an email from Prelate Sheila Hallmeyer explaining that "it was an honest mistake and no intent to take your money without authorization was ever considered."
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Conference Call With the Board
I’d like to relate only a few of many experiences that led to my resignation and separation from the Society of Novus Spiritus.
Shortly after opening the Delaware church, I submitted questions to the board pertaining to our church in Delaware asking for clarification on certain issues. After two years with no response I sent a personal letter to Sylvia Browne asking why my questions were being ignored. Sylvia did not respond to my letter. Instead, I received a conference call from several board members. I was advised by Cardinal English that the call was being recorded. It was stated at this time that in addition to Cardinal English, Prelates Michael McClellan, Sheila Hallmeyer, and Pam Meyer were also on the call. After being informed the conversation was being recorded, I did likewise on my end therefore I have documentation of all I am presenting in this letter. During this conference call, my questions were not addressed. The entirety of the call was a verbal attack.
During this call I was asked if I believed that the church in Canada was receiving preferential treatment. Here are just a few examples of the Canadian church receiving preferential treatment:
1) I was required to send 10% of our donations to Novus Spiritus - the Canadian church was not.
2) The ministers with the Canadian Church attended the same Minister in Training class that I did, however they were ordained separately several months ahead of the rest of the class. Prelate Sheila Hallmeyer flew to Canada to ordain the two Canadian ministers at no expense to the Canadian ministers. My ordination took place several months later at my own expense (airfare to and hotel room in California).
3) When another minister shared her excitement regarding starting her own church services, Prelate Sheila Hallmeyer responded to her with, "remember, you're not Canada."
4) When I admired a statue on the table of the Canadian church and asked Rev Ian Wilson of the Canadian church where he had purchased it as I would like to purchase one for our church he informed me that Prelate Sheila Hallmeyer had purchased the statue for the Canadian Church. Upon my asking Prelate Hallmeyer if she would let me know where she had purchased the statue as I’d like to purchase one for our Delaware church her sarcastic response was "if Mother [God] wants you to have one, she’ll infuse you with where to get it."
These are only a few of many examples whereby the Canadian Church of Novus Spiritus received preferential treatment.
In the letter I sent to Sylvia I quoted from one of the Journey of the Soul books where Sylvia states, "no one in this organization will ever turn a deaf ear to you" asking why then had my questions remained unanswered for over two years. The sarcastic response I received from these board members was, "Well, no one except for Gene because he really is deaf." That was sarcastic and an affront to Gene who may not have wanted people to know about his hearing issue - which by the way, I had no knowledge of until that moment." (Gene Meyer is one of the ministers in Campbell CA and also the husband of Prelate Pam Meyer). I found the comment offensive and certainly not representative of a spiritual organization.
I was scolded by Prelate Sheila Hallmeyer for communicating with another MIT (minister in training). She stated we should not be communicating with each other which was totally contrary to the information given by Sylvia herself on the first day of our MIT class. Also on the first day of our training, Sylvia advised us we could have access to Sylvia’s trance tapes with Francine (her spirit guide). This was also noted in my letter however during the conference call I was advised that none of the ministers would be given access to the trance tapes – again, totally contrary to the information given to us by Sylvia. I understand more clearly now Prelate Sheila Hallmeyer’s words to my MIT class after Sylvia left the room that first day of training which was, "don’t pay any attention to what Sylvia said to you. She doesn’t understand how things operate."
Although Sylvia and Novus Spiritus never provided monetary support, I was berated by Prelate Pam Meyer for securing a new location to hold services when we needed a larger space to accommodate the members. I was told I should have obtained the board’s permission to move to another location, even though the responsibility for the rental and the contract was solely mine. When I attempted to state that I didn't think I needed to obtain permission to move the location, I was interrupted while I was attempting to speak by Prelate Pam Meyer saying "that's your god damn problem, you don't think!"
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To raise funds to support our church, I would set up tables (with permission from Hay House) to sell the Journey of the Soul topic books as well as craft items at Sylvia’s lectures here on the east coast – specifically New York City, Philadelphia PA, Washington DC, Boston MA and Atlantic City NJ.
In 2006 I was asked by Sylvia (through Prelate Michael McClellan) if I would also sell her over the counter books as well. Sylvia was appearing with John Edward and this event was not sponsored by Hay House. Prelate McClellan stated that unless I made Sylvia’s books available for purchase they would not be available at this lecture. With little advance notice, I agreed to do so. Hay House shipped several boxes of each of Sylvia’s over the counter books to my home. I was advised by Prelate McClellan that our Delaware church would be able to keep all profits made from the sale of these books as Sylvia only wanted the exposure to her books. This quickly changed just days before the lecture (and after I’d already received the shipment of books from Hay House). I was informed by Prelate McClellan that the board had met and decided I should "donate" 25% of all profits to Novus Spiritus. After reimbursing Hay House for the products, I would then send Novus Spiritus the 25%.
I was approached by Ben, Sylvia’s assistant, toward the end of the lecture and directed to turn over the cash and credit card slips. He stated this was by Sylvia’s direction as she wanted to take the cash and credit card slips back to CA with her. Sylvia stated "the office will settle up with you on your portion of the profits" after the amount is determined. Shortly after intermission I had calculated the total of cash and credit card slips. Delaware’s portion minus the 25% to be taken by headquarters would have been well over $1000. I have inquired several times regarding the money owed our church however my requests regarding these funds has been continually ignored. To date, our church still has not received the money owed to us.
In the email I received (mentioned above) from Prelate Sheila Hallmeyer regarding the automatic withdrawal of the study group fee, she also referenced the money still owed me from the Atlantic City lecture by stating, "I only know that some arrangement was made by Michael (Prelate Michael McClellan) but the details were not communicated to me. Any complaints on this can be conducted to Michael for his answer."
My conversations with Michael regarding the money owed our church has not resulted in any resolution. I would think that with the millions of dollars Sylvia Browne already has, she would not need to steal money from our church but that is what has happened.
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Trip to Montel Williams Taping
On April 24, 2007 the members of the Society of Novus Spiritus Delaware church (myself included) went to a taping of the Montel show in NYC. We had taken several of these bus trips to see Sylvia when she was appearing on the Montel show. This trip to see Sylvia Browne was arranged several months prior to the Delaware church’s separation from Novus Spiritus.
A few days prior to the scheduled trip I received a call from Beverly at B&R Touring (the company who arranges the bus trips) advising me that she’d received a call from "Sylvia’s people" advising her she could not follow the normal procedure on the day of our trip, which was always 2 tapings (one with Sylvia Browne and a second with either Sylvia or another Montel guest). Normal procedure was to arrive in NYC at 9:00 am, attend one taping followed by a 3 hour break and then a 2nd taping.
Beverly was advised by "Sylvia’s people" we were not permitted to arrive at the studio prior to 3:00 pm for a 3:30 pm taping. She said she was not given a reason for this change in the normal procedure. She also told me that this was the first time this has happened in the many years that she has sponsored these bus trips to the Montel show.
When we boarded the bus, Beverly asked me if "Montel’s people" had contacted me the night before.(They hadn’t – in fact, I was confused by her question to me as to why "Montel’s people" had called Beverly asking for my phone number and had no clue at that time why they would want to contact me).
A good friend of mine, also a Novus Spiritus minister, called Prelate Michael McClellan after the bus trip and while speaking with him she asked him about the change in procedure that occurred. At first she was told that the office had heard a rumor about someone going to the Montel show to cause trouble for Sylvia Browne. During this conversation, Prelate McClellan stated that he’d been informed that someone had made a post on James Randi’s forum which led them to believe someone may be attempting to cause trouble for Sylvia at the Montel taping. He said he assumed it was me who was going there to create trouble for Sylvia.
The charge to each person for this bus trip was $50. The fee was to attend two Montel show tapings, not just one. Rather than asking me about this rumor, an assumption was made and 50 people were penalized by the actions of Sylvia’s staff. (There were 3 days of bus trips scheduled that particular week and our group was the only group penalized. The rest of the groups followed the normal procedure and attended two tapings). The show is not live therefore anyone attempting to cause a problem would most definitely be escorted from the studio. There was no reason to penalize this group based on a rumor but this is how her staff operates. Had Michael spoken to me prior to the trip, or had "Montel’s people" contacted me, they would have been informed by me that this "rumor" had nothing to do with the people from the former Delaware church. However, because someone within the office in California heard a rumor and attributed it to the people from Delaware, 50 people were penalized.
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Why This Letter
It was not my intent to ever correspond with you, however with the many rumors being spread, and especially due to comments made on the Sylvia Browne endorsed website Go Sylvia Browne administered by Sylvia Browne’s son’s fiancée Heather referencing my resignation letter, I feel I have no choice but to respond. I will no longer allow others to speak for me when they do not have the facts or continue to make slanderous remarks against my character and reputation. There has been much speculation regarding my resignation, and I am the only one who can address what transpired during my tenure with Novus Spiritus that led to my severing my relationship with them.
After reading many of the posts on that joke of a website (my opinion) where the members discuss the modest lifestyle Sylvia lives, tell other members that Sylvia’s money goes to charities as well as to supporting her churches, I decided to speak out. Those people have no idea what Sylvia does with all the millions of dollars she makes.
On this Sylvia endorsed website, both Bishop Ian Wilson (Canadian church) and I have been accused of separating from Novus Spiritus because "we thought we knew more than they do, and our egos were out of whack." It is because I could no longer excuse their atrocious behavior as I’d been doing for so many years that I separated from their organization. However, if treating people with kindness and RESPECT means I "know more than they do" then I will proudly accept that accusation and wear it as a badge of honor.
To those people who are still under the delusion that Sylvia lives a "modest life style", has little money and lives in a small condo, please do the research. It’s all a matter of public record. Sylvia DOES NOT live a modest life style. She owns many homes, in her name as well as co-owned by Sylvia and her son Christopher worth millions of dollars. She promised her "followers" a holistic center, retirement home, Gnostic school, etc, but this has never happened. And yet she lives the lifestyle of the "rich and famous".
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Letter to Sylvia
There were many reasons which led to my decision to resign. The final one was an exchange I had with Cardinal Darren English in March 2007. We were required to audio tape each of our services and send a copy to the office in Campbell, CA. Cardinal Darren English accused me of omitting one of the prayers. (We were required to follow a specific format and use certain prayers each service). I have never deviated from the required format and told him I had not omitted the prayer. As I explained to Cardinal English, I reviewed my master CD and the service was conducted in the correct format. I suggested that he may have deleted it during his editing process. (Darren has stated to me several times that he has equipment which edits out anything they want to remove from their recordings). We exchanged several emails about this, which concluded with this statement from Cardinal English: "There wasn't any closing prayer, so I'm taking one from a service at another church. Please make sure you all follow the established order of service. I'm sure this was a one time glitch, so I see no reason to mention this to any of the other board members. I don't know if you're aware, but Ian and the ministers in Canada were changing the content and text of the prayers as well as the order of the service which I'm sure you can imagine didn't go over well here at HQ."
As I told Sylvia in my letter to her, Darren’s actions were the proverbial straw that broke the camels back for me. I submitted my resignation within days after that final exchange, realizing that I’d put up with all the emotional and verbal abuse I was going to from them.
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Calls From Sylvia
On April 5th, I received the first of three phone calls from Sylvia. (All of which I still have). On the first voice message Sylvia left, she asked me to call her and said, "I just can't believe that you could give up your ministry that easily. If you want to go to that side, that's fine, but for all you've meant to me and how much I love you, I just can't believe you can just so easily shrug off the Mystical Traveler. Everybody gets tired, everybody gets worn out, but for you to just drop it like that, or because Sheila's been cranky - I always held you up to everybody as an example of what a minister should be."
I did not return her phone calls. As I explained to Sylvia in a subsequent letter to her, when she dismissed her staff's actions as being tired, worn out and cranky, she condoned the actions of her staff and that is unacceptable to me. Holding me up as an example for what a minister should be actually reinforced my desire to continue my ministry, just not with her organization.
In a subsequent voice message, Sylvia said she felt "we should talk seriously about what I’m getting myself into should I go over to their side". She also mentioned you by name Mr. Lancaster implying you and anyone associating with you is a dark entity. (For those who may not know the definition of a dark entity, it is defined by Sylvia and her organization as someone who is evil and will never get to go to the Other Side (heaven).
I know that Mother God stands on the side of truth and I’ll always be standing with Mother God so if "their" side is the side of truth, that’s where I’ll be.
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Reading With Sylvia
I’ve seen your request for validation of readings Sylvia has done for others. With the thousands of people who have had readings with Sylvia – and who still support what she does, I was perplexed as to why I haven’t seen any articles from "Sylvia followers" challenging your position on Sylvia’s inaccuracies. I couldn’t imagine why none of the people who’ve had "correct" readings have contacted you to prove that she is accurate.
A slight correction. It is true, as I have stated several times, that I have not received any emails regarding any correct Browne readings in missing persons or murder cases. But I have received a handful of emails from people who were satisfied with their own readings they received from Browne. Two of these are scheduled to be the focus of upcoming articles here.
While thinking about the lack of validations of correct readings, I began to recall my own reading with Sylvia Browne. Since my reading was over 5 years ago (Aug 31, 2002), I felt I should listen again to the tape of my own reading. It was then that I realized that almost everything Sylvia said to me was either vague or couldn’t possibly be validated. However there were some things she said which I can validate as being totally inaccurate. For example:
Sylvia asked me "how are you doing with your stomach?" I realize now that I was leading Sylvia to the response I would receive from her by first stating, "I was diagnosed with an ulcer several years ago." Sylvia responded with, "yes, you have a nervous stomach and should stay away from all dairy." I’ve had no issues with my stomach since the ulcer diagnosis over 15 years ago and I continue to eat dairy.
Further into the reading Sylvia said, "What is this about moving Nancy? It looks like you're going to be moving - about a year and 7 months - not out of your area, just residentially." Five years later I am still in my home with no desire to or intention of moving.
I then mentioned to Sylvia that I’d been in a relationship that had ended and asked her if she saw us getting back together. Her response was, "He will be back with you. It will take about a year – he’s all in a snit - got his nose out of joint. You and I have lived long enough to know how men get - they get pouty and everything. But you will reconnect – that’s good for you – that’s companionship." Not only are we not back together – we’ve had no contact with each other since my reading with Sylvia.
I told Sylvia that I would like to become a Certified Hynotherapist. I told her that I’d been observing with some of her ministers and was considering a course with the New England Institute to receive my certification. Sylvia’s response to me, "No, you don't need to - we can certify you. I want you to stay with us. I’ll certify you within a few months." That was in 2002. I resigned in 2007 and still had not been certified by Sylvia. (An issue I brought up to the Novus board on several occasions with no response.) Eventually I became certified with another agency.
I asked Sylvia about my 9 year old grandson’s health as he has had open heart surgery. Sylvia told me that he would not need further heart surgery. At his most recent appointment with his cardiologist in April 2007, she has indicated that it is likely he will need further heart surgery to repair a leaking valve. Was Sylvia correct in stating he definitely would not need further open heart surgery? Only time will tell on this one.
After reviewing this reading recently, I realized that Sylvia was only accurate about one thing she told me. She said that I would be one of her ministers. Prior to my reading I’d been communicating with her staff ministers for several years who all knew of my desire to become a minister with Novus Spiritus. It wasn’t a stretch in my mind to be told that I would be by Sylvia. So yes, she was accurate on this one.
There are many things that she told me for which there can never be validation such as the name of my spirit guide, what my "totem" is, how many lives I’ve lived and where and who I was in those past lives. Those are "safe" predictions for anyone to make.
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Since my resignation, I have heard from many people associated with Novus Spiritus (former as well as current ministers, Study Group Coordinators, Liaisons and Novitiates), and I am continually amazed (although I probably shouldn’t be based on my own experiences) by what these people have revealed to me regarding their own personal experiences. These people know about your website and they know about the things she’s said and done but have chosen to look the other way which begs the question, why? I have lost many friendships because I dared to speak the truth.
Had I been aware of any of the things communicated to me to my association with Novus Spiritus, I would never have become a member of Sylvia’s organization, much less a minister. I am appalled and disgusted by the revelations that have been shared with me.
Mr. Lancaster, when I first saw your website I couldn’t understand why you were on a campaign, initially in my mind a vendetta, to "stop Sylvia Browne". But as I continued reading all of the articles you had published, I found myself in varying stages of shock and denial. As a Gnostic, I believe in analyzing the motive and intent of an individual’s actions. Only you can speak to your motive, but from everything I’ve read, I see your intent as being one of bringing truth into the light of day. Before reading your articles, I was only aware of the Shawn Hornbeck case and dismissed that "miss" as an isolated case until I read the details of all your other articles, which I found were well documented and can’t be dismissed.
Most of my experiences were connected with Novus Spiritus and the board of directors rather than with Sylvia Browne herself. I did not become involved with Novus Spiritus because of Sylvia Browne the psychic, but rather, what I thought was a spiritual organization of loving, caring, kind people. It took several years before my eyes were opened to finally realize that they are NOT who I thought they were and their "public" face is very different from their "private" face.
As I stated in my personal letter to Sylvia, she has always advocated "take what you want and leave the rest", which is exactly what I did. I took the Gnostic philosophy and left behind her staff with their rude, humiliating and condescending behavior. Taking "one for the team" as often said to me by Prelate Michael McClellan, ceased to apply when I realized there isn't any team - and possibly there never was - as Mother God’s message of love and goodness isn’t spread by humiliation and control.
My experiences with Novus Spiritus and Sylvia Browne have taught me some valuable lessons – albeit difficult ones. The hardest for me personally has been, and continues to be, spiritual betrayal. If coming forward and relating only a small bit of my experiences with Sylvia Browne and the Society of Novus Spiritus can influence others to investigate, research and before they become part of that organization, my extremely painful experiences will have been worth it.
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Mr. Lancaster, thank you for having the courage to take on such a daunting task of exposing Sylvia Browne and her organization for the frauds they are. I was not directed to your website until after I had resigned from the organization. Had any of those who were already aware of Sylvia’s lies and manipulations shared the information with me sooner, I would have left the organization much sooner than I did.
You have an article on your website that was written by Robert Samuels. Everything he has written in that letter is truthful. We were together when most of the things he stated actually happened. Please consider this a validation of all the things he presented in his letter to you. While Sylvia Browne and Novus Spiritus claim their organization is a spiritual one, their actions prove otherwise.
To those who aren’t intimately familiar with the Society of Novus Spiritus or Sylvia Browne, the things I’ve pointed out here may seem insignificant, even petty perhaps, but once you’ve seen the "private faces" rather than the public ones, you’ll understand just how despicable being part of their organization really is.
Nancy Williams, Former Minister
Society of Novus Spiritus Delaware
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My thanks to Rev. Williams for sharing her experience with us.
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